Saturday, September 06, 2008

Re: Low moaning Dems & MSM this morning comments

Low moaning Dems & MSM this morning was an “after action report” following Gov. Sarah Palin’s historic and outstanding speech before the GOP convention

Here in italics are parts or all of comments it drew with my responses in plain

Tarheel Hawkeye @ 10:12 - - -

My two thirty-something daughters, who were rabid Hillary supporters and were planning to sit out the election or vote for Hillary as a write-in, have both called me to say they're voting for McCain-Palin. I believe there will be a large number of women who will do the same based on Sarah "Barracuda's" speech at the RNC last nite.

This brings strength to the GOP in several ways: the older female vote will belong to McCain; the religious right is now off the fence and solidly behind Sarah; the conservatives are riled up because of the cheap shots from MSM talking heads; and the Reagan Democrats are likely to return to the GOP fold. This spells disaster for St. Barack and Joe "Kinnock" Biden.

I hope you’re right on all points. You’re mention of “Kinnock” from whom Biden plagiarized brings to mind this: So many pundits have been pointing out Palin didn’t right her speech, but I can’t think of one who's add: “Of course unlike Biden, she didn’t plagiarize it.”

Anon @ 11:27 - - -

You see, the MSM is bitter and they cling to their left wing ideology and their false narratives and their antipathy toward politicians who represent Americans who are not like them.

Obama’s “bitter … cling to” remark is the gift that keeps on giving. I used it just today in a post.

Steve in N.M @ 12:26 - - -

Hawkeye: Always look forward to your comments. Am praying you are correct (as you usually are) with this one! Maybe Chris' leg will go numb! Steve in New Mexico

Gee, Steve, if MSNBC’s Chris Matthews' leg goes numb, how will he be able to judge The One’s speeches?

Ex-prosecutor @ 1:30 - - -

A very important asset of Governor Palin, which the MSM and Democrats ignore, is that, unlike the candidates the Democrats continue to produce, she's very likable and has lived a life much like the rest of us.

For that reason, as well as the others discussed in your post, the Democrats must be very careful in how they jump on her. Attacks may cause fence-sitters to rally to her.

To sit by her on a long flight on a plane would be enjoyable, unlike having Gore, Kerry or Obama as companions.

Sitting by Gore or Kerry on a long flight?

No thanks. I’ll "Go Greyhound."

Now, Obama?

I’d turn to him after the beverage service and ask: “Do you think you can get through Election Day with someone asking: ‘Well, if you slept through all those sermons, OK I guess, but didn’t Michelle tell you what he said after you woke up?”

Anon @ 2:51 - - -

Of course they will come after her and they're too blinded to realize she's armed and dangerous. She'll fight back and win.

I hope you’re right about Palin ultimately winning the Smear War so much of MSM has launched against her. There’s a lot out there which gives the lie to their smears. This CNBC interview in which Palin discusses energy and the environment is one example. I can’t recall a leader of either party discussing those topics so knowledgeably.

Another serious problem they have and don't understand is even though no one thinks this is a woman who needs protection, decent people will be angered by the continued attacks and will be defensive of her as well.

They used the American people's sense of decency and fair play to sustain Bill Clinton. Defending him as a flawed but 'good man'. Saying, over and over again, how his transgressions were personal matter (his wife forgave him, we had to).

Now they don't realize how the public will rise up to defend against outrageous, unfounded attacks on the girl next door?

I think what we are seeing with Palin is just what we saw with the Duke lacrosse players. Leftist ideologues and foolish people pulled along in their wake are saying things that don't make sense. Fair-minded, intelligent people are seeing what's going on and speaking out. And some people don't know what to think.

Anon @ 5:36 - - -

The moaning might grow louder. A CBS poll conducted over the previous three nights (which did not even catch the full impact of the Palin speech) has the race tied. A week ago, they had Obama up 48-40.

This is one poll and they can jump around a bit but it will be interesting to see how the polls look when more come out. The Gallup and Rasmussen rolling averages have shown a bit of movement toward McPalin but, as Palin spoke after 10 PM last night, I doubt any poll has picked up on her performance with the possible exception of including some people called on the West Coast last night by pollsters.

McPalin’s a new one on me. I’m fine with it.

Today, Sept. 6, Rasmussen (Obama +3) and Gallup (Obama +2) both caution the full impact of the GOP convention won’t show in their polls until next week, which fits with what you were pointing out.

Thank you all for commenting.


bill anderson said...


There is another wild card that has not shown up just yet. Obama has made what I think is a principled effort to reach out to evangelical voters.

However, now that Palin is on the ticket and the Democrats have been absolutely savaging her for things like her faith and the fact that she has five children, Obama can forget about the evangelicals. I believe that the attacks on Sarah Palin are going to be even more vicious than they have been, and that will bring more evangelicals and small-town and rural people to her camp.

Obama really is in a hard place right now. I do believe he would want to bring evangelical and Catholic voters in, and as an evangelical, I appreciate the fact that he has not been dismissive like John Kerry was. However, given that his supporters on Daily Kos, Pandagon, and other blogs and people like Bill Maher are going to be openly mocking her faith and her family, you can bet that they will drive away any evangelicals that might have leaned toward Obama.

Anonymous said...

John -

Here is a link to a blogger who has compiled all the current rumors about Sarah Palin, with most being untrue:

Jack in Silver Spring

Anonymous said...

Reade Clark Hoyt's piece in the Sunday NY Times where he defends Elizabeth Bumiller's savage reporting not on the issues (which are a legitimate source of inquiry) but on her family and their particular beliefs and values. The press cannot have it both ways - Palin is damned if she does and damned if she doesn't. After the vitrolic claims that Palin was not the mother of her son, they announced something that was common knowledge in Wasilla that her daughter was five months pregnant. This then raised the claim that she was trying to hide her daughter's pregnancy. That a "good mother" who stayed home with her children would not have that happen (my mother was a good mother who stayed home but my sister found herself a pregnant teenager- who eventually married her baby's father and they are still married some six years later) then became the rallying cry with the bit thrown in that a "special needs" child would need his mother more and that should be her focus. Then, she is accused of using her family as props - she has her young son with her (the unsaid is that how dare she - he should be at home in a crib) and then when her daughter's fiance comes out to be with his girldfriend at the convention (does anyone even consider that he might want to be at his intended's side as she goes through what must be a horrendous time) Palin is criticised once again as either 1' trumpting her daughter's pregnancy and teenage pregnancies in general or 2. trying to show that it is some lovey -dovey family when the critics would like nothing more than to see some dirt or cat-fighting.
Now the attention is on the fact that she attended several undergraduate institutions - started out in Hawaii and missed the cold of the mainland so transferred several times before she found the right "college fit". Her experience mirrors more the average these days as students transfer colleges for many reasons. There are also the snide elitist comments about the fact that she graduated from an Idaho University rather than from an Ivy League school when in fact the vast majority of college graduates graduate from state institutions or small liberak arts colleges rather from the Ivies.
Obama and Biden may very well win this election - if they win it because they have a better vision for America and they make that case then that is one thing (personally, their vision is not mine). However, if they (or their surrogates - Bob Shrum was just decrying Palin's educational background on the tv just a few minutes ago)persist in their demeaning comments and personal attacks and win through that means - then the division that will enuse in this country will be a class vision that will make the racial divide seem minor in comparison.

BoonDoggie said...

I wouldn't mind sitting next to Obama/Gore/Kerry on a long flight. I've always wanted to ride in a Gulfstream.