So CBS’s 60 Minutes really is going to do a Duke segment on September 24.
That’s got a lot of people saying they hope 60 Minutes shows the bathroom where "the crimes" are alleged to have occurred.
I’m all for showing the bathroom. I’ve talked to a number of people who’ve been in it. They all tell me the same thing: it’s very small.
What’s more, in separate conversations, two people who are friends of mine and friends of the former owner who last year sold the house to Duke, say he’s told them he doesn’t see how three people, let along four, could all fit in that bathroom at the same time.
Showing that bathroom will serve a very important public purpose.
For the Nifong/Gottlieb version of events to be true, four people have to not only be able to fit into that bathroom, they also need to do a lot of moving around as three of them seek to subdue the fourth, who’s fighting them off as ….. (well, you know how the rest of “the story” goes.)
And then, at the end of about a half-hour of desperate struggle, all four walk out of the bathroom without one of them having a fracture, dislocation or cut requiring stitching.
So please, 60 Minutes, show that bathroom! We should be allowed to see it after listening to and watching all of Nifong’s descriptions and reenactments of what he says happened there.
And something else, 60 Minutes. Please put four good size people in that bathroom if you can and show us what that looks like.
Using miniature, radio-controlled TV cameras means one of the four in the bathroom won’t need to be a CBS technician. Cameras can be attached to the walls and ceiling. They can be moved to scan what’s happening in the bathroom by a technician outside the bathroom working the radio controls.
Naturally, one of the four in the bathroom (assuming they can all fit in) will be the 60 Minutes interviewer whom I’m told will be Ed Bradley.
The other three?
Duke’s President Richard H. Brodhead should definitely be one of them. Since the university owns the house, Brodhead’s the landlord so to speak. So he needs to be there to keep an eye on things, don’t you agree?
Brodhead can also answer questions Bradley asks. I think the bathroom’s the perfect place to ask Brodhead why he hasn’t said a word of criticism of Nifong’s handling of the investigation and his disrespect for the students’ legal rights.
The next person to join Bradley and Brodhead in the bathroom has to be DA Mike Nifong himself.
After months listening to and watching Nifong explain and demonstrate at news conferences and during TV interviews what he believes happened in the bathroom, we’ll all welcome the chance to see Nifong demonstrating at what he says is the actual "crime scene."
Of course, at that point there’ll still only be three people in that small bathroom.
Let’s let Ed Bradley introduce the fourth person and finish this post :
“Now, folks, this is Sgt. Mark Gottlieb who’s squeezing in here and joining us in what’s now a very crowded bathroom. Before ... be careful there, President Brodhead, you’re backing up against the toilet.
Before going further, I want to remind 60 Minutes' viewers that we advised parental discretion at the start of the program.
Now with that taken care of, I wonder, Sgt. Gottlieb, if in a minute you’d be willing to demonstrate the actions you believe the accuser took to defend herself that night right here in this bathroom?
And would you, DA Nifong, be willing to demonstrate the things you say those three students did here that night?
President Brodhead and I will just try to stay out of the way while you and Sgt. Gottlieb…..”
18 comments:
I would love to see that. LOL.
Nice.
I am sick & tired of Nifong, but all of the search warrants, ID's, DNA samples, and indictments were done under the watchful eye of Judge Stephens. Nifong could not have done any of these actions without Judge Stephen's signature. When are we going to put the spot light on that man!
Let's put the Judge, Nifong, Gottlieb, and Brodhead all in the bathroom and lock the door! Then somebody flush the toliet!
Lest we forget, Crystal Gail Mangum said that one of the players was "heavy set," one was "chubby," and the third had a "chubby face" (so I'd assume he didn't have a skinny build).
"60 Minutes" wanted to announce its upcoming expose in its own time,
But NOT disclosing it early enough for proposals would have been a crime.
And,after the New York Times pro-Nifong piece was swiftly dissected,
"60 Minutes" surely knows what of it is expected.
Michael Gaynor
I loved your bathroom humor!
The 3 indicted lacrosse players plus the AV together must weight over 700 pounds. The 4 people you suggested for the bathroom interview probably weigh even more. Do you think 800 pounds of flesh would fit in that small bathroom? I doubt it.
Sounds like a game of Clue: In the Bathroom with Brodhead....
Maybe "Get A Clue, Special Durham Edition?"
-AC
It is a game of Clue. At trial, I am expecting the AV to say that prior to this she was raped by Colonel Mustard in the Library with the candlestick.
If the bathroom don't fit, they must acquit.
I believe I first called public attention(mid July on Talk Left) to the size of the bathroom and the impossibility of getting 700 to 800 pounds of flesh into it.And forget Matt punching Crystal from the front while both Brett and Dan are jointly applying full stregth Lacrosse kicks to her ample behind.Obviously Matt would have ended up in what was left of the rickety john with Crystal on top of him.
One of the first things I remember(April to May) about this case was seeing a color photo of the tiny loo on a student blog with appropriately raunchy comments. The site also included a color shot of good neighbor Bissey reclining on a coach in his summer shorts. I recollect that this was the Cornell blog but neither I nor, apparently, any one else at Talkleft has been able to locate it since I published the information.
The enterprising(Duke?) law students should really come forward,photographs in hand, and take a bow for scoping everyone else on this absolutely key point.
Sydney Carton
This is a very interesting aspect of this case. I hadn't thought of it before.
Brodhead is probably about the size of Crystal, wouldn't you guess? So those folks would probably pretty closely approximate the size of the people at issue in this case.
Sydney, you mention Matt, Brett and Dan. Was Dan in the version with 5 attackers? I apologize -- I just have difficulty keeping up with all the stories. And where does Adam stand in the bathroom while this is all taking place? I'm guessing he was probably opening the wrappers for the condoms that weren't used. Or maybe he was using CGM's cell phone to call the escort service for a contortionist/stripper/escort.
Well that explains everything that must have taken place in the bathroom. The AV must be double jointed! LOL
I am not Susan, but since the accuser claimed one man introduced himself as Adam to her, but everybody at the party was calling him Dan, I imagine Susan means Dan is Adam. Or Adam is Dan. Of course that brings up the question-what exactly Collin, Dave or Reade have to do with any of it? Are we to believe that one man introduced himself as Adam, everybody at the party was calling him Dan, yet he was neither Dan nor Adam?
Yep, this is about as believable as the rest of the incredible story Nifong and the accuser are trying to sell.
This is so simple!
Put the 3 accused players in the bathroom with Nifong, shut the door and let THEM determine if there is adequate room.
Nifong would then know if he should drop the case or continue looking for evidence to prove the Av had also...
Please, will someone in in the real world, ie. the blogosphere, obtain 1) a photo of said lax bathroom and 2) the exact dimensions and layout?
For a few bucks, say $100, we could build a mock up of that incredibly small space. Heck the "Students for an Ethical Durham" could even put a voter sign up booth in front of the mock up. Our resident wordsmiths could come up with a catchy phrase to illustrate "If the bathroom don't fit, you must EVICT NIFONG" to potential voters.
I think Nifong's best strategy is to go with the "owl theory" that worked so well for the Michael Peterson case. Or he could go with a combination of the O.J. defense ("If the glove fits...) along with the "owl theory". It's a slam-dunk in my mind!
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