tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13073631.post7668532584300904374..comments2024-01-04T07:21:18.243-05:00Comments on John In Carolina: A Chronicle editor responds to outing postUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13073631.post-72503992310918414302008-04-28T10:45:00.000-04:002008-04-28T10:45:00.000-04:001:02 might have a point...if it weren't for the fa...1:02 might have a point...if it weren't for the fact that johnincarolina.com is *not* registered to a John but instead to a James... Sounds like some people are trying to cover their muddy tracks and not doing a particularly good job at it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13073631.post-79797905079554889132008-04-28T10:02:00.000-04:002008-04-28T10:02:00.000-04:00Ken in Dallas:I wrote the comment about John's ide...Ken in Dallas:<BR/><BR/>I wrote the comment about John's identity not being terribly difficult to ascertain.<BR/><BR/>I am not Ryan McCartney.<BR/><BR/>I have no earthly idea why you would think that I am—-I certainly had no intention of implying that in my post.<BR/><BR/>I am not purporting to have knowledge of how Graham or McCartney learned John's identity. I am merely stating, for the record, that I know who John is, and I know this without the help of privileged, confidential or otherwise private information.<BR/><BR/>I am further stating that, due to the fact that I care very little for John's anonymity, I may have mentioned it to Chronicle staffers, people associated with the Chronicle, or others who may have ultimately told someone at the Chronicle.<BR/><BR/>Again, I have no idea how these editors learned John's identity. But to assert that one must have learned from the other, or that the only way one would learn John's identity is through his dissemination of the information is laughable and naive.<BR/><BR/>Cheers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13073631.post-88035302625369474662008-04-28T09:41:00.000-04:002008-04-28T09:41:00.000-04:00So what is the point of Anon 1:02's comment?Does i...So what is the point of Anon 1:02's comment?<BR/><BR/>Does it make publishing a name less intentional?<BR/><BR/>Murder is okay if the victim is already injured?kbphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11814695387546108048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13073631.post-40380112459010219292008-04-28T08:17:00.000-04:002008-04-28T08:17:00.000-04:00John:"I may have mentioned it to Chronicle staffer...John:<BR/><BR/>"I may have mentioned it to Chronicle staffers."<BR/><BR/>The editor seems to have had a case of SMI ( sudden memory improvement). First he denies that he said anything, then, after being caught in the lie, he counters with a "Gee, it is so easy to find out" excuse.<BR/><BR/>Thank god for Google to help track these low lifes for the rest of their careers.<BR/><BR/>Ken<BR/>DallasAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13073631.post-62849812310835922752008-04-28T01:39:00.000-04:002008-04-28T01:39:00.000-04:00I realize your full name appeared in The Chronicle...I realize your full name appeared in The Chronicle, but I still wonder who you think you are? When asked specifically not to post a personal e-mail, you did. The only thing Ryan McCartney did wrong was trust you enough to believe that when he asked you not to post his message on your blog, you wouldn't. Printing his e-mail was hypocritical on your part: you can't imply that David Graham outed you in an act of shameless self-promotion and then publish an e-mail seemingly under the same guise. You loved the fact that you were mentioned in David Graham's column. You were just waiting for this to happen so you could jump all over it and bring attention back to yourself. As we travel further away from the Spring of 2006, this blog plunges further into obscurity, particularly nationally. No, I'm not saying the situation surrounding Duke Lacrosse is over—far from it. But for someone who claims to be so dedicated to the truth, to holding the media accountable, to rising above whatever it is you deem as mainstream vice, I find it pathetic you would stoop to putting down college students to try to make yourself bigger. I'm only sorry David Graham gave you this opportunity to spew your Chronicle vitriol. Volume 102 of The Chronicle, led by McCartney, was recognized universally for its fairness and thoroughness in its handling of lacrosse case. Just check out this article published in the American Journalism Review: http://www.ajr.org/Article.asp?id=4379<BR/>Or is the AJR beholden to the Group of 88, too? I realize you have a bone to pick with Graham, and perhaps rightly so, but to drag Ryan's name in the mud is pretty petty and unfair.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13073631.post-19459625383452032912008-04-28T01:10:00.000-04:002008-04-28T01:10:00.000-04:00Thanks JohnIf they both learn to whine and always ...Thanks John<BR/><BR/>If they both learn to whine and always blame others for their errors just a pinch more than they presently do, they just might make it in the MSM world.<BR/><BR/>Prolly on a low base salary with a great profit sharing plan!kbphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11814695387546108048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13073631.post-25093757237681722622008-04-28T01:02:00.000-04:002008-04-28T01:02:00.000-04:00John, please let us dispense with the notion that ...John, please let us dispense with the notion that you are somehow hard to identify. I learned your identity without any help from the people referenced in this story last year. Had you wished to remain anonymous, you really ought not to have purchased a domain name for yourself.<BR/><BR/>I may have mentioned it to Chronicle staffers. I imagine others might have done the same.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13073631.post-49931547307622694382008-04-27T23:52:00.000-04:002008-04-27T23:52:00.000-04:00John:I'll take your word for it that there are som...John:<BR/><BR/>I'll take your word for it that there are some honest ethical people that work at The Chronicle. However, from what I've seen from Ryan McCartney and David Graham, the paper appears to be a cesspool.<BR/><BR/>God help anyone that works there.<BR/><BR/>Ken<BR/>DallasAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13073631.post-86835315078153144352008-04-27T23:08:00.000-04:002008-04-27T23:08:00.000-04:00Why does John waste his time with Graham, McCartne...Why does John waste his time with Graham, McCartney and The Chronicle?<BR/><BR/>I appeciate his work as much as anybody, but he needs to go back to reporting on the N&O's lies and DPD's.<BR/><BR/>Graham and the others at Duke will suck forever on the big green bottle the alumni keep filling up each year.<BR/><BR/>Brodhead's salary and benefits are 700K plus.<BR/><BR/>Dukies say that's just great.<BR/><BR/>Tar Heel born and bred.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13073631.post-51566410077216141732008-04-27T18:29:00.000-04:002008-04-27T18:29:00.000-04:00All columns at the Chronicle are required to be re...All columns at the Chronicle are required to be reviewed by an editor.<BR/><BR/>WHO EDITED DAVID GRAHAM'S COLUMN?<BR/><BR/>Could it have been Ryan McCartney?<BR/><BR/>(Just speculating).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13073631.post-8024908438564509592008-04-27T17:37:00.000-04:002008-04-27T17:37:00.000-04:00JinC, You've clearly been treated badly by some of...JinC, <BR/><BR/>You've clearly been treated badly by some of the people at the Chronicle. That said, I don't think you should have published this. So McCartney doesn't understand the rules of "off the record." Regretable, considering that he is a journalist, but I think that a reasonable thing to do would have been to grant him a little slack. He didn't pull out "off the record" to smear someone else, he did because he wanted to speak to you directly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13073631.post-25461003760926981632008-04-27T17:18:00.000-04:002008-04-27T17:18:00.000-04:00I expect McCartney and Graham to issue a statement...I expect McCartney and Graham to issue a statement telling everyone they're "the real victims."<BR/><BR/>Then Jesse Jackson will offer both grad school scholarships.<BR/><BR/>McCartney and Graham will accept.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13073631.post-45104082614124458832008-04-27T16:42:00.000-04:002008-04-27T16:42:00.000-04:00I find this sad indeed. When I noticed, quite som...I find this sad indeed. When I noticed, quite some time ago that JinC always had a critic (really more like a stalker) in the Chronicle comments section, I just assumed it was some nutty clan of 88/frame supporter. It never occured to me it might be one of the students (who as a group I had great respect for) who worked at the Chronicle. <BR/><BR/>Now I have to wonder if "Brodhead's secretary" might also be a Chronicle staffer.<BR/><BR/>I knew that not all Duke students had the character shown by the lacrosse players (men and women) and I knew there were some bad seeds at the Chronicle but I wanted to believe MOST Duke students were impressive (I'm still trying) and the same for the Chronicle staff (which I now have reason to seriously doubt).<BR/><BR/>How sad for Duke if the young people who suffered the injustice with grace and dignity are the exception, not the rule. And at the Chronicle Ms. Butler is the exception.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13073631.post-63053413051665134442008-04-27T16:31:00.000-04:002008-04-27T16:31:00.000-04:00The late, great Chronicle editor Matthew Sclafani ...<I>The late, great Chronicle editor Matthew Sclafani once wrote, "Journalism is perhaps the only profession in which you receive more criticism for doing a better job. I get worried when people stop blasting The Chronicle, because if we make everyone happy, we aren't doing our jobs."</I><BR/><I><BR/>I know there are some readers who will be pleased to see me go, and will no doubt tell me so in the online comments on this article. I especially await the input of the cowardly ones who comment anonymously-John (redacted) who blogs as John in Carolina, and his ilk. Rest assured, I will enjoy reading all your comments even more than you will enjoy writing them."</I><BR/><BR/>Judging by the number of comments to David Graham's column I suppose he would consider it a "better job" and journalistic triumph.<BR/><BR/>Are you still enjoying the comments, David? Good luck in your career in "journalism."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13073631.post-50992408139313378722008-04-27T15:46:00.000-04:002008-04-27T15:46:00.000-04:00I score it game, set and match for John.John's a g...I score it game, set and match for John.<BR/><BR/>John's a great blogger.<BR/><BR/>I hope he keeps at it.<BR/><BR/>McCartney and Graham could learn a lot form him if they can ever shrink their egos down to roomsize.<BR/><BR/>Duke '98Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13073631.post-61045970998741414232008-04-27T13:38:00.000-04:002008-04-27T13:38:00.000-04:00McCartney's e-mail is turned on its head. He is bl...McCartney's e-mail is turned on its head. He is blaming the victim (John-in-Carolina)for the Graham's journalistic sin of identifying a confidential source. He should be blaming Graham, not John-in-Carolina.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com