tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13073631.post6170002772471940667..comments2024-01-04T07:21:18.243-05:00Comments on John In Carolina: Fact-checking Market Watch’s Plame suit dismissal reportUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13073631.post-75254798496127979502008-08-13T17:56:00.000-04:002008-08-13T17:56:00.000-04:00Do you all drink the same Kool-Aid? Crazy conspira...Do you all drink the same Kool-Aid? Crazy conspiracy theorists....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13073631.post-44137411621136122402008-08-13T06:32:00.000-04:002008-08-13T06:32:00.000-04:00Again, we have an example of a case where the meta...Again, we have an example of a case where the metanarrative cannot get into the way of the facts. What has been lost in all of this from the beginning is that Joe Wilson claimed that he was sent by the Vice-president to Nigeria (this Wilson stated in an op-ed article he wrote which appeared in The NY Times) which was absolutely false. Wilson and his wife were gad about types in the DC social circuit. Both were upset that their careers had not brought them the monetary and political recognition that they though that they deserved as "bright young things". Richard Armitage, who is about as scurrilous a person as there is, sat on the sidelines during the entire investigation more than happy to see people in the administration squirm under the Javert policies of Fitzpatrick which were in turn trumpeted by those in the press who wanted to get Karl Rove at any cost. <BR/>While I wish that JinC will get a response from CREW and Market Watch and that they will corrrect their misstatements - I will be greatly surprised if that happens.<BR/>cksAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13073631.post-2237049419037555632008-08-12T22:41:00.000-04:002008-08-12T22:41:00.000-04:00IMHO, the Bush administration has been absolutely ...IMHO, the Bush administration has been absolutely disastrous in its inability to counter the lies and misstatements that have been made by the Plame gang. Jack in Silver Spring has it correct: John Ashcroft should have reined in Fitzgerald when it became obvious that he was not the least bit interested in prosecuting the person responsible for the leak (Richard Armitage--an enemy of the Bushies), and, more importantly, never made clear that Plame was not a covert agent in the sense of the federal law cited as the rationale for the special prosecutor's investigation. Bottom line: when the GOP has a firing squad, they generally form into a circle. They are their own worst enemy.<BR/>Tarheel HawkeyeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13073631.post-76162501890386886042008-08-12T21:28:00.000-04:002008-08-12T21:28:00.000-04:00John -You are absolutely correct. The White House ...John -<BR/><BR/>You are absolutely correct. The White House had nothing to do with 'leaking' Valerie Plame's identity. There are two questions that remain. Why wasn't Patrick Fitzgerald reined in by Ashcroft who knew the truth (and after it was revealed that Fitzgerald knew it was Armitage but proceeded to turn the White House upside down anyway, why wasn't Fitzgerald reassigned to Nome Alaska)? The second question is why weren't Plame and her husband, Joe Wilson, investigated for conspiring to conceal Iraq's attempt to get yellow-cake from Niger?<BR/><BR/>Jack in Silver SpringAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13073631.post-72793163980209665642008-08-12T18:18:00.000-04:002008-08-12T18:18:00.000-04:00Louis,Thanks for your comment.One concern I have i...Louis,<BR/><BR/>Thanks for your comment.<BR/><BR/>One concern I have is that CREW overstated/misreported what the court has done. But that doesn't put me in a position of disagreeing with what you've just said.<BR/><BR/>CREW is IMO more an "advocacy" group than a "news organization."<BR/><BR/>But what looks a lot like a press release winds up at Market Watch which touts itself as presenting news.<BR/><BR/>Depending on how Seligman responds, MW is where I may go next.<BR/><BR/>I was glad to get your comment.<BR/><BR/>Please stay in touch.<BR/><BR/>JohnJWMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08275423713054782480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13073631.post-47739570448457879842008-08-12T18:01:00.000-04:002008-08-12T18:01:00.000-04:00John you may be overreacting, the opinion of the C...John you may be overreacting, the opinion of the Court of Appeals is based on the pleadings. At that stage the allegations of the complaint are taken as true. The Court essentially said even if the wild allegations of the complaint are true, the plaintiff still loses. The case never got to the fact finding stage.L Nettleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01177747117164521842noreply@blogger.com