tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13073631.post2672691883170085876..comments2024-01-04T07:21:18.243-05:00Comments on John In Carolina: Mangum’s Last Dance swindle ignores BrodheadUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13073631.post-13923629667765311912008-10-31T08:20:00.000-04:002008-10-31T08:20:00.000-04:00I wonder if Mangum's "handlers" have considered th...I wonder if Mangum's "handlers" have considered the magnitude of the task they have undertaken. They've cleaned up both her person and her story ...and, for a precious few moments, presented the newly prim former Pole Dancer to the world: clean, sober, the brilliant, high achieving Sister Survivor of Durham Laegend. <BR/><BR/>They have vouched for this reality.<BR/><BR/>But past is prologue, so how do they keep Mangum from being Mangum again for the rest of her sick, sorry life?<BR/><BR/>Do they believe that she will be suddenly stable, sober and emotionally "dependable" as the head mistress of her own group home for troubled women? <BR/><BR/>Like she was in the Navy?<BR/><BR/> Do her "handlers" want to take responsibility for encouraging others to put their troubled children in her care? Are they giving the most public job reference ever, that I might hire Crystal and not fear new accusations should she enter the stock room one day with other innocent young men?<BR/><BR/>They have publicly stated she is a woman of highest character now. They are on record for all time.<BR/><BR/>What responsibility to they have to me, if I believe them and hire her, or rent an apartment to her, or trust her with my child?<BR/><BR/> Her memoirs are a litany of various accusations. Has this suddenly ended or is this Crystal's operational manual for life? But the esteemed Professor and the Agent have now most publicly vouched for her in the most positive terms, stood behind her "history.": Shall they be responsible for anyone who is damaged by Crystal in the future because they were taken in by these assurances of her stability by supposedly serious, credible professionals WHO CLAIM THEY KNOW HER SO WELL?<BR/><BR/> Shall we ask them straight out if they are vouching for her stability, her sobriety, even her sanity?<BR/><BR/> Their names are attached to hers now: they have become her most public character references. They vouched for her in every possible way, didn't they?<BR/><BR/>Now the long future lies ahead.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13073631.post-9287914428730572722008-10-30T22:28:00.000-04:002008-10-30T22:28:00.000-04:00John -Great post. I hope that Ms. Mangum gets sla...John -<BR/><BR/>Great post. I hope that Ms. Mangum gets slapped with at least a defamation suit. And of course something happened somewhere that night, but who knows where and who knows to whom?<BR/><BR/>Jack in Silver SpringAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13073631.post-23194362056206575822008-10-30T22:26:00.000-04:002008-10-30T22:26:00.000-04:00Joe Neff did outstanding reporting. Does that make...Joe Neff did outstanding reporting. Does that make up for other N&O editors and reporters who set the table for Nifong's frame with their late-March 2006 coverage? Please don't lump Neff in with his colleagues.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13073631.post-69520411884310738142008-10-30T22:03:00.000-04:002008-10-30T22:03:00.000-04:00Terrific post.But you won't call KC out for ge...Terrific post.<BR/><BR/>But you won't call KC out for getting in bed with the N&O?<BR/><BR/>You know Joe Neff was one of those covering up from the beginning.<BR/><BR/>Yet you won't criticize KC's "hero of the hoax."<BR/><BR/>Get some spine, John.<BR/><BR/>NC JournoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13073631.post-87782033568979527312008-10-30T21:47:00.000-04:002008-10-30T21:47:00.000-04:00To the first five commenters here, my appreciation...To the first five commenters here, my appreciation and thanks.<BR/><BR/>I'll reply individually to your comments this weekend.<BR/><BR/>To A Duke Student,<BR/><BR/>Thank you first for a civil comment offered with, IMO, genuine feeling.<BR/><BR/>I want to say more in response but the hour is late.<BR/><BR/>Tomorrow I'll move your comment to the main page and offer a more detailed response and invite you and others to respond in turn.<BR/><BR/>Thank you all for your comments.<BR/><BR/>JohnJWMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08275423713054782480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13073631.post-50204137688421736472008-10-30T20:46:00.000-04:002008-10-30T20:46:00.000-04:00John,How much longer are you going to maintain the...John,<BR/><BR/>How much longer are you going to maintain the facade of being a "fair and balanced" blogger when your views are so distinctly biased in each of your posts? Skepticism, last I checked, involved attention to all of the details and not merely the ones preferable to you.<BR/><BR/>Oh, and for the record? I read that article by David Graham: describing a writing style hardly constitutes praise (read other literary reviews). Further, "raw and honest", as one of the comments points out, does not entail that a work is "truthful".<BR/><BR/>People want to actively bash Mangum for "ruining the lives" of 3 lacrosse players; they seem to be doing all right in the world, if you ask me. Is this memoir a stupid idea? Yeah, it probably is. Is Mangum a "bad person"? I don't know. Most theories of "bad or good" people say we should consider a person's mental state when making this call. Didn't the State declare her to be "mentally ill"?<BR/><BR/>That actually always bugged me: if the woman is actually mentally ill, why didn't the court mandate she obtain treatment? Ah, I'm sure that was Duke's fault, too.<BR/><BR/>Just one dude's opinion.<BR/><BR/>~A Duke StudentAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13073631.post-56642048579334971552008-10-30T19:19:00.000-04:002008-10-30T19:19:00.000-04:00JinCThank you for yet another truth in this saga -...JinC<BR/>Thank you for yet another truth in this saga -- your parody was 'spot on" <BR/><BR/>PLEASE keep reminding us all of the half-truths and lies that have been offered.<BR/><BR/>These (false) enablers are scary creatures, indeed.<BR/><BR/>MSM is past due for a wake-up call!<BR/><BR/>DMomAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13073631.post-237437357998096192008-10-30T18:08:00.000-04:002008-10-30T18:08:00.000-04:00John-I loved your parody. You matched the writing ...John-<BR/><BR/>I loved your parody. You matched the writing style of "Grace" perfectly.<BR/><BR/>Thanks a lot for the chuckle.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13073631.post-85187484839984810562008-10-30T17:03:00.000-04:002008-10-30T17:03:00.000-04:00John,Mangum and Brodhead.You nailed them both.I wa...John,<BR/><BR/>Mangum and Brodhead.<BR/><BR/>You nailed them both.<BR/><BR/>I was LOL.<BR/><BR/>Great post.<BR/><BR/>Duke Mom '09Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13073631.post-53050095434078321222008-10-30T16:50:00.000-04:002008-10-30T16:50:00.000-04:00The parody was fun. Steve in New MexicoThe parody was fun. Steve in New MexicoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13073631.post-78262404618944950242008-10-30T16:34:00.000-04:002008-10-30T16:34:00.000-04:00I am wondering if David Graham is still pursuing j...I am wondering if David Graham is still pursuing journalism as a career? He is from Akron, Ohio. I hear Joe the plumber has moved up in the world, and his job may be open in the near future. <BR/><BR/>In my opinion, Crystal Mangum is what the term “Low Life” must mean. She committed a crime without punishment, Jesse Jackson offers to pay for her college expenses, and now she may rake in proceeds for total dishonesty. Who said, “Crime doesn’t pay?”Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com