tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13073631.post2320315441886846891..comments2024-01-04T07:21:18.243-05:00Comments on John In Carolina: INNOCENT: Neff Misspeaks (Post 3)Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13073631.post-17397933142937894882007-06-02T13:50:00.000-04:002007-06-02T13:50:00.000-04:00Dave in Carolina said...John--I'll one up you on c...<B>Dave in Carolina said...</B><BR/>John--<BR/>I'll one up you on charges to the N&O. I believe that Samiha Khanna knew that Crystal was most likely lying on Day 1, and wrote her article anyways.<BR/>I posed that charge to Ted Vaden, e-mailing him privately with my full name and city of residence. He told me his next article would address my charge. (It did not, it discussed only anonymous sources.) He did not reply to my later e-mails.<BR/>It's your choice of course to protect your identity, I just fear that someone with google skills, the time, and the inclination will out you soon.<BR/>All the best.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13073631.post-38269960944860059522007-06-02T12:13:00.000-04:002007-06-02T12:13:00.000-04:00Joe Neff - What a pious guy. I have never been imp...Joe Neff - What a pious guy. I have never been impressd with Joe or his writing. He is just the only person from the paper who did not pile on the case. Who would care about John's last name. Acturally, anyone can write any name. Ruithie and the paper inflamed this pile of leaves and gave Nifong the right to go mad with the event, Jack the RipperAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13073631.post-60197724873231647252007-06-01T23:52:00.000-04:002007-06-01T23:52:00.000-04:00To the first three Anons,I agree with what each of...To the first three Anons,<BR/><BR/>I agree with what each of you say and I thank you for saying it.<BR/><BR/>To the next three Anons,<BR/><BR/>How do each of you know the other two are who they say they are? How do I know any of you are who you say you are?<BR/><BR/>To Dave in Carolina,<BR/><BR/>I’ll appreciate it if you respect my desire for anonymity but I can’t control that, can I?<BR/><BR/>Can we agree that the N&O "works anonymity from both sides?"<BR/><BR/>By that I mean the N&O knew on 3.24/06 the accuser was Crystal Mangum.<BR/><BR/>But the N&O didn't tell readers that.<BR/><BR/>The N&O now says it knew on 3/24/06 that Mangum told them the second dancer was sexually assaulted but that she didn't report it for fear of losing her job.<BR/><BR/>But the N&O didn't tell readers that.<BR/><BR/>The N&O knew on 3/24/06 that the players had been extraordinarily cooperative with police. I don't just mean the captains' cooperation. I mean also the cooperation of the 46 players ordered to submit to police DNA testing and face and torso photographing.<BR/><BR/>One, some or all of those 46 players could have appealed the order. None did, including the ones DPD knew weren't even at the party. <BR/><BR/>What extraordinary cooperation!<BR/><BR/>But in its 3/25/06 “anonymous interview” story the N&O didn’t tell readers any of that and instead promulgated the "wall of solidarity” falsehood.<BR/><BR/>I hope, Dave in Carolina, you go on and take a look at Neff Post 4 which I put up a while ago.<BR/><BR/>Finally, to all seven of you, thank you for commenting.<BR/><BR/>JohnJWMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08275423713054782480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13073631.post-1983546863927354752007-06-01T20:33:00.000-04:002007-06-01T20:33:00.000-04:00Dave in Carolina said...John-- I respect your des...<B>Dave in Carolina said...</B><BR/>John--<BR/> I respect your desire for anonymity, but there is enough personal information on your blog now to identify you. You've written pieces related to this case under your real name in other venues.<BR/> Why not "come out" on your own terms, and call their bluff?<BR/> Perhaps Joe will be willing to spend some time with you, answer many questions, follow up on some of your leads... all in exchange for his one quesion: "What is your last name?". <BR/> (I know, but I won't tell anyone.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13073631.post-39576832395959154922007-06-01T14:07:00.000-04:002007-06-01T14:07:00.000-04:00Brent Jones and David Carter are right.And who car...Brent Jones and David Carter are right.<BR/><BR/>And who cares if Joe Neff goes around the press clum saying things that aren't true.<BR/><BR/>And why should he admit he fibbed?<BR/><BR/>John F. KennedyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13073631.post-52502132405337731332007-06-01T13:58:00.000-04:002007-06-01T13:58:00.000-04:00I tend to agree that common courtesy would be to i...I tend to agree that common courtesy would be to identify yourself if you expect Mr. Neff to reply .You have always had the names and backgrounds of those you have been critical of in this affair and it does seem reasonable that they should have yours as well . I'm sure you could Email this reporter privately if your anonimity to the larger group is your issue . Otherwise I don't believe Joe Neff would be out of line by not responding .<BR/><BR/>David CarterAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13073631.post-3545552888466406102007-06-01T08:23:00.000-04:002007-06-01T08:23:00.000-04:00I agree the N&O have some answering to do. Howeve...I agree the N&O have some answering to do. However, I agree with Neff that it is important to attach one's name to opinions, especially since the blogosphere is a public record and usually tries to sway the jury in the court of public opinion. We know <BR/>who the gang of 88 are, for example. I have looked up their info on the web in order to see what their credentials are etc. Turn around is fair play. If you have a conversation with someone it is important, not to mention polite, to introduce yourself.<BR/><BR/> Brant JonesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13073631.post-11962152965665197172007-06-01T03:56:00.000-04:002007-06-01T03:56:00.000-04:00I agree with 5:40 PM's post. I know you through w...I agree with 5:40 PM's post. I know you through what you say, not who you are. I find Neff's concern that he need to know your real name odd, especially when the questions are so objective and when he can check your blog to determine how you deal with issues.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13073631.post-42174473380070369522007-05-31T20:51:00.000-04:002007-05-31T20:51:00.000-04:00Alas, Joe Neff is just following Melanie Sill's le...Alas, Joe Neff is just following Melanie Sill's lead.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13073631.post-88344090259156046562007-05-31T17:40:00.000-04:002007-05-31T17:40:00.000-04:00What difference does it make if Joe knows your nam...What difference does it make if Joe knows your name? Your questions are legit and he should answer them without worring about "who" you are.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com