tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13073631.post109296933076612703..comments2024-01-04T07:21:18.243-05:00Comments on John In Carolina: Who “Owns” That “Toxic” NTO?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13073631.post-76451336093720523942008-01-15T00:07:00.000-05:002008-01-15T00:07:00.000-05:00Folks, I've just about got a post ready on the bat...Folks, <BR/><BR/>I've just about got a post ready on the battle between the DA's office and DPD.<BR/><BR/>If all goes well I'll post tomorrow, Tuesday, Jan. 15.<BR/><BR/>Sorry to keep delaying but the stakes are huge and go to the heart of the frame-up attempt.<BR/><BR/>Best,<BR/><BR/>JohnJWMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08275423713054782480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13073631.post-6931744283730968492008-01-14T00:44:00.000-05:002008-01-14T00:44:00.000-05:00Folks,Thank you all for your comments.To Skeptical...Folks,<BR/><BR/>Thank you all for your comments.<BR/><BR/>To Skeptical,<BR/><BR/>Sorry I didn't get the promised post up tonight.<BR/><BR/>Best,<BR/><BR/>JohnJWMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08275423713054782480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13073631.post-17997503647587017092008-01-13T22:14:00.000-05:002008-01-13T22:14:00.000-05:00Who were the primary editors of the Khanna-Blythe ...Who were the primary editors of the Khanna-Blythe story in the News&Observer in late March 2006 — the story that inflamed residents and enabled the frame of the lacrosse players?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13073631.post-60305377801819940412008-01-13T17:06:00.000-05:002008-01-13T17:06:00.000-05:00Hi John,Thanks for your comment. While there are v...Hi John,<BR/><BR/>Thanks for your comment. <BR/><BR/>While there are various possible scenarios, it is plausible Gottlieb came up with the idea for an all-encomapssing NTO, then Gottlieb and Himan presented the idea to ADA Cline who approved the concept, then the Police Atty. helped draft the application along with Gottlieb and Himan, and then Saacks signed it. <BR/><BR/>This way Cline can just say she just approved the concept, and Saacks can say he did not draft it but merely signed it because Cline was not available. (Although if he signed it, Saacks would be legally responsible IMO). This begs the question of why the Police Atty. allowed an NTO application of questionable constitutionality. Has the Police Atty. been deposed or questioned at all?<BR/><BR/>Good luck.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13073631.post-89426148010746768012008-01-13T15:16:00.000-05:002008-01-13T15:16:00.000-05:00John,I'm shocked, SHOCKED! Someone in an official...John,<BR/><BR/>I'm shocked, SHOCKED! Someone in an official position of trust in Durham is lying? Surely you jest!!<BR/><BR/>Everyone knows that the Public Servants of Durham all tell the truth all of the time. Yes, Saacks is telling the truth and Cline is telling the truth, even though their statements are mutually-exclusive.<BR/><BR/>However, in Wonderland, mutual exclusivity is no barrier for these wonderful public officials. After all, Crystal's statements were mutually exclusive, but there was a gaggle of folk in Durham and Duke who insisted that the very fact that her statements contradicted each other constituted PROOF that they were true.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13073631.post-70733754646082557132008-01-13T12:43:00.000-05:002008-01-13T12:43:00.000-05:00John:You posed a number of good questions. The cou...John:<BR/><BR/>You posed a number of good questions. The courts will probably ask only one question: Who presented the request?<BR/><BR/>The answer is, obviously, David Saacks.<BR/><BR/>I am sure Mr. Saacks never gave a second thought to the legitimacy of the NTO request at the time. He will live to regret that decision.<BR/><BR/>Ms Cline may have, indeed, orchestrated the request behind the scenes, but she was wisely "unavailable" to present the request. I suspect she probably knew it was unconstitutional.<BR/><BR/>Ken<BR/>DallasAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13073631.post-61182694771286001632008-01-13T11:35:00.000-05:002008-01-13T11:35:00.000-05:00Dear Anon,Yes, an "actual reporter at the H-S."I'm...Dear Anon,<BR/><BR/>Yes, an "actual reporter at the H-S."<BR/><BR/>I'm sorry I can't tell you how that happened but I'll try to find out.<BR/><BR/>Dear Sceptical,<BR/><BR/>No problem on the NTO tag.<BR/><BR/>Your comment is bang on.<BR/><BR/>I plan to use it in a post later today building on the one yesterday about the "toxic" NTO.<BR/><BR/>BTW - We both know between us we're only touching some of the reasons why no one wants to "own" that NTO.<BR/><BR/>I continue to admire your citizen journalism.<BR/><BR/>Please let me know you saw this.<BR/><BR/>Thank you both.<BR/><BR/>JohnJWMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08275423713054782480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13073631.post-51592307315952238042008-01-13T11:16:00.000-05:002008-01-13T11:16:00.000-05:00That's "Non-Testimonial Identification Order"--sor...That's "Non-Testimonial Identification Order"--sorry.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13073631.post-81740313645217255382008-01-13T11:14:00.000-05:002008-01-13T11:14:00.000-05:00There are several issues about the application for...There are several issues about the application for the Non-testimonial Investigation Order (NTO):<BR/><BR/>1) The affadavit presented in the application contained false information.<BR/><BR/>2) Why were all white LAX team-members named when the police knew that some of them were not at the party and some not even in Durham that night?<BR/><BR/>3) The police knew there were non-LAX players at the party? Why weren't they named/<BR/><BR/>4) Who came up with the idea for the NTO?<BR/><BR/>5) Did Himan and Gottlieb write the application, or did they get help from the Police Attorney, ADA Tracey Cline, or others? (David Saacks acknowleges suggesting changes in the text before he signed it).<BR/><BR/>6) Was Mike Nifong aware of the idea of an NTO before the March 23 incident at the copy machine?<BR/><BR/>There is a lot we don't know.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13073631.post-20207254999611635182008-01-12T18:57:00.000-05:002008-01-12T18:57:00.000-05:00Imagine that. An actual reporter at the H-S.Imagine that. An actual reporter at the H-S.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com