I've made many individual replies on the threads.
Also ---
For all the “nice work, John” comments: Thank you. I appreciate them very much.
For all the “heads up, John” comments: Thank you. They often point out things I’d otherwise miss.
Just yesterday morning I’d gone to the Duke Chronicle site expecting to find a story that would add to the N&O’s Sept. 9 story about Gottlieb’s arrest record and conduct re: Duke students. But yesterday’s Chronicle wasn’t up yet, and I moved on.
Most likely I wouldn’t have gone back to the site again until very late last evening. But someone just after I’d been to the site sent a “Gottlieb story at the Chronicle” email comment.
I jumped on the story and posted, mentioning in the post that the N&O and Chronicle stories reported on less than 6% of the time Gottlieb’s been a DBP officer.
That post and another I’d done on the Sept. 9 N&O story were at hand when the N&O’s Editors’ Blog unexpectedly posted on their Sept. 9 Gottlieb story. So I was able to quickly draw on those posts and get a detailed, questioning comment up at the EB. It’s the first one there and will be read by many who don’t come to JinC or other blogs reporting and commenting on the Hoax.
The readers’ “heads up” helped make that possible.
To those of you who have concerns regarding tech issues pertaining to emails, especially email destruction: I’ve passed on and highlighted as best I could your concerns. It’s certainly an important area but one about which I’m ignorant. There’s not much more I can do.
One thing we can all be sure of: The defense team includes people who are very tech savvy.
If you haven’t read the whole "
60 Minutes proposal" blog comment thread, you really ought to. Lot’s of pith and humor. Just what threads can be at their best.
Now, as they used to say on Monty Python, for something completely different.
I want to respond directly here on the main page to some critical Anonymous commenters. I’m responding not because their comments are critical (fair and informed criticism is welcome here) but because the commenters made false statements.
One false statement has to do with President Brodhead’s position with regard to wishing to see David Evans, Collin Finnerty and Reade Seligmann placed on trial. Some commenters object to my saying he wants to see them on trial; and tell me I’m losing credibility for saying it. Here’s a sample:
I should note that this thread began when JIC stated that President Brodhead wants to see the LAX players tried for gang rape and other felonies, a really ludicrous statement which suggests that JIC is more interested in pandering to the more extreme and rabid of the lacrosse apologists than in finding the truth.
Well, the commenter is certainly clear, albeit wrong.
Let’s look at
what President Brodhead said on July 25 in a letter to the Friends of Duke University:
[W]e can't speak with certainty of matters that only the criminal justice system can resolve. We are eager for our students to be proved innocent. We share the wish for a speedy resolution of all the matters that are now in doubt.
That’s pretty clear, isn’t it?
If President Brodhead ever decides he doesn’t want to see the students put on trial, all he has to do is say so. His statement will be headline news.
Until then, let’s not misrepresent President Brodhead by claiming he doesn’t want to see the students put on trial. And let’s not be so hard on old JinC for only speaking truthfully about Brodhead.
Moving on –
A comment on the
"Duke lacrosse: ALERT – Those DPD memos" post thread contains a very serious false statement I’ve put in bold:
I agree that some of your positions are getting too extreme. Specifically, it is extremely far fetched to assert that an entire police department is corrupt based on its response to discovery requests. I am an attorney who works for the federal government.
I never said an entire police department is corrupt based on it response to discovery requests. I never said anything close to that.
One of the nice things about blogging, at least if you have your facts straight and are telling the truth, is you can refer people back to whatever is at issue.
So I can say to any of you who doubt what I’m saying: “ Friend, I just gave you a link to the post the commenter’s talking about. Take a look at it.”
The commenter self-describes as “an attorney who works for the federal government.”
If that’s the case, it’s very troubling to think there’s an attorney working in the federal government who because of carelessness, mendacity or something else would make a false statement regarding so serious a matter.
That said, it’s also important to remember that a self-identification on the web may or may not be true.
A few final thoughts – If you look back over JinC posts, you’ll see I’ve not really said much explicitly critical of Brodhead.
Saying that Brodhead wants to see the students put on trial is, as we can now agree, simply stating a fact.
So is saying that while Brodhead has been very critical of the lacrosse players’ conduct, he’s said not a single public word of criticism of either DA Nifong or principal investigator Sgt. Gottlieb.
Stating those important facts about Brodhead is not necessarily being critical of him.
Indeed, there are many people who admire and support Brodhead precisely because those facts are true. They would be very upset if they weren’t.
Can you imagine, for instance, the reactions of Professors Orin Starn and Pater Wood, Community Activist Victoria Peterson, and Duke’s faculty’s Group of 88 if Brodhead were to say tomorrow he believes the Nifong/ Gottlieb investigation was and is a travesty; and that he agrees with Duke Law Professor James Coleman that Nifong should step aside and allow Governor Easley to appoint a special prosecutor for the case?
In the days to come, I plan to say a lot more about President Brodhead. Much of it will be critical of him.
I plan to make my criticisms based on facts. I ask President Brodhead’s many supporters at this blog to please not get upset with me when I state something factual about him.
I’m not responsible for what President Brodhead has said and not said, done and not done. He is.
John